Slave to the gods of media

11 May 2006

In this, the latest edition of Margaret Becomes Increasingly Co-dependent On Her Electronic Hardware, let me introduce you to the newest member of my (ever expanding) hardware family: LaCie.

You guys might not know this and it may come as a shock, but I do a little dabbling in digital photography. CD-backups have always been the way I maintain an archive of work - for my digital photography, web design work, and hardly there, completely legal collection music of course - but I'm pretty sure it was the Windows Service Pack 2 that pushed my little Dell laptop over the edge. After installing SP2 the burning became a little... off. Backups started being corrupted, reading and writing started running with scissors, cats and dogs started living together... basically your bog standard mass hysteria sort of thing. So, you know, THANKS MICROSOFT! I did in fact find a way around the cd-burning twitch which involved a regular schedule sucking up massive amounts of weekend time and a sacrificial goat, but if you've tried to find goat herders around these parts it ain't easy. Last night, after consulting my, um, consultants I officially coughed up the big bucks and went with the external hard drive solution.

There was the DVD-rom solution, but that would only lead to more cat and dog co-habitation hysteria. I need more cds lying around my house like I need more fucking threadless t-shirts.

There was also the NAS route... but then I would've paid $100 more dollars so I could basically access the drive wirelessly. In my world $100 is a new kitten - NOT a cable connecting a freagin' storage device to my wireless router.

So far I'm happy with the device - it's 250 gigs of silvery, storage goodness. It's also fairly quiet and does a great job of sitting there, looking pretty, and protecting my assets. Kinda like my boyfriends! Ha ha ha, only kidding.

I have to confess I'm curious as to how you guys are storing your media - anyone have any good info?

Comments

I'm a die hard external driver...I refuse to store anything on my compter she would run slowly...and that is not good.

Posted by char on May 11, 2006 11:02 AM:

I think this is a really messy, user-unfriendly problem right now. CDs, DVDs, external HDs give you more control but take up space. Cloud storage (strongspace.com, fluxiom.com, .Mac) is not really cheap enough for the masses yet, and gives you only a fraction of the space you can get on an external HD. In any case you have to be diligent about creating backups -- who likes creating backups?

Posted by Nick Sieger on May 11, 2006 11:07 AM:

This is probably not the best data preservation strategy.

I like using multiple disks per computer and multiple partitions. I keep all my system stuff on one disk, spread along partitions, and I keep my personal stuff, music, and source code on another disk spread along multiple partitions.

It is often possible to recover data off a partition even when the drive fails. As my data grows I'll probably get a SATA RAID card and have a redundant partition. That costs more than an external drive though.

Posted by Samir M. Nassar on May 11, 2006 11:23 AM:

Amazon S3.

No flat fee, no startup costs. $0.15 per GB-Month of storage used. $0.20 per GB of data transferred.


Has a nice easy SOAP api. I host video files from it and archive some stuff there, not important stuff, but stuff.

I used to think my stuff was important enough to have a backup available no matter what even when I happened to be offline for some reason, and then I realized... I'm never offline.

Posted by Not2Sure on May 11, 2006 11:55 AM:

OK this is a really scary admission but my photos are like this:

-RAW files on my LaClie 160gb Firewire drive.
-PSD versions on the LaClie 250gb USB drive.
-Jpegs on both drives, the laptop and the mini, plus stored at Amazon S3 and low-res versions on Flickr.
-DVDs of the RAW & PSD folders stored at work. I'm debating shipping dvds to my parent's house for disaster recovery.

Yes, I take my data-backup seriously. I once lost 30Gb of data because the Yankees lost the 2001 World Series. (If you want the story, just ask sometime.)

All I can say is Thank God for SuperDuper.

Posted by Steve on May 11, 2006 2:21 PM:

I didn't know Amazon had that!! I do backup's regularly too.

Posted by char on May 11, 2006 3:02 PM:

Hey Char, have you met my friends? t3h ub3rg33ks, all of them :).

I'm down with this S3 thing tho - could be nice to have another spot of stuff. You know someday moms aren't gonna be ragging on their kids about "picking up their dang rooms already". It's gonna be more like, "clean up, defrag, and backup your hard drive already! If I've told you one I've told you a thousand times. You're grounded until you get your disk in shape young lady..."

There. Did I sound menacing?

Posted by sopheava on May 11, 2006 3:13 PM:

I'm a mac person, using Aperture which at the click of a button automatically updates every change to my external sister Lacie.

They call it a vault. I call it magical.

Posted by pleaseEnjoy on May 11, 2006 3:57 PM:

Sophie,
No I have not met the t3h ub3rg33ks...well not until now and they are 1derful! All this talk of back up and defrag makes me wanna hug my hard drive!

Posted by char on May 11, 2006 4:24 PM:

Okay okay okay... so is it pronounced "lay-see" or "lah-SEE"?

I thought it was Frenchish, so "lah-see" came off my tongue until Senor Minnesohtan at the computer store went and fucked all that up with a resonating "layyyyyyyyyy-see" last night.

Posted by sopheava on May 11, 2006 5:26 PM:

Lah-see. Or so say the geeks in silicon valley.

Me, I just drop a new $300 drive into the computer whenever the existing one fills up. This time around, it bought me 400G when my 80G filled up.

Plus I've got scads of room on my server still.

I also have three or four external FireWire drives that get rotated through as backups.

And there's always jpegged backups of my "good" photos on flickr. Not ideal, but better than nothing.

Posted by DaveP on May 11, 2006 6:18 PM:

I guess I'm still way back in the 1990's of Geek.
I use DVD's... But then again, my camera only shoots JPEG so my file sizes are quite small compared to RAW.

That, and I didn't want to add any further weight to my luggage (and figured I'd be back home in a few months) with an external drive.

I'm hoping to rejuvenate my geekness in the near future and join you space cadets.

Posted by Joshua on May 11, 2006 7:24 PM:

Is it the "Design by F.A. Porsche" drive? I bought that one not five days ago. Then I installed a gig of memory and danced triumphantly in front of my computer.

Posted by ben on May 11, 2006 8:16 PM:

Way to follow the link, Ben.

Posted by ben on May 11, 2006 8:20 PM:

With all this insanity of memory...who keeps all the pictures they shoot? Or do you just keep photoblog worthy ones?

Posted by char on May 11, 2006 10:40 PM:

Welcome to the club! With a video camera that shoots MPEG to a hard drive, I found that I started buying a lot more of these external USB drives. However, I have become addicted to storage. You know you have a problem when you have 3+ TB of storage at your fingertips. 1TB of music, 1TB of Video, and 1TB of Photos. Luckily, I had a drive crash, so I have space again. :) or :(

Posted by Christopher on May 11, 2006 11:13 PM:

Speaking of NAS, I have a Linksys NLSU to make any two USB drives into a NAS. Anyone want it cheap?

Posted by Christopher on May 11, 2006 11:15 PM:

this summer when i started to get more serious about my photo shooting, i invested in a SATA RAID card and 2 240 gb SATA drives which i'm currently running mirrored. Of course that makes my workflow a bit mangled since those are in one of my servers and its significantly easier to upload pics and work them in my laptop. i try to remember to migrate them from the laptop's iView MediaPro catalog to the server.

A friend of mine has suggested i also do offline network storage of my photos since even a SATA RAID setup can fail. Looks like i might have to start looking into S3...

Posted by spike on May 12, 2006 7:18 AM:

Wow. I'm overwhelmed with response - I should've posted this *before* I went out and bougt the LaCie drive. Nothing like a little indecisive to get the party started.

But to answer Char's question and push things along a little further, I don't delete anything I shoot.

Ever.

Does this make me weird or normal? I was kinda under the impression that most people didn't delete. Then again up until 2 days ago I thought everyone could flare their nostrils but then proceeded to find out I'm a special case.

As if anyone needed further proof I'm a special case.

Posted by sopheava on May 12, 2006 9:52 AM:

kick ass tshirts btw.

As far as data storage goes i just put an IBM iSeries in my kitchen, it doubles as a neat breakfast table.

Posted by clint on May 12, 2006 9:52 AM:

I almost never delete any of my photos, either.
Unless they are blurred beyond any repair and you can't tell what I was trying to shoot in the first place...

And everyone can flare their nostrils. It's a physiological response to a number of stimuli (assist in heavy breathing along with accessory muscles in the kneck, emotional distress, etc.)

They just might not be able to flare on cue... but their body knows how. :-)

Posted by Joshua on May 12, 2006 10:10 AM:

Thanks for the answer....I thought I was weird too I don't delete either....nothing. Some of my bum shots I can convert to cool backgrounds for my templates through Paint Shop...but that's probally weird too.

Posted by char on May 12, 2006 12:14 PM:

I'm of the "if the original doesn't grab me in some way, delete it" camp.

If I take 4 pictures of the same thing, I'll keep the one I like best and delete the other three. It's not like I can't save copies of that one and play around that way. Also if something doesn't stand out right away when I'm only looking at the ~100 pictures I just took, it's certainly not going to stand when compared to the ~5000 images I have in my archives.

Posted by Steve on May 12, 2006 12:33 PM:

I delete most of everything I take.

It's all junk.

Posted by Not2Sure on May 16, 2006 1:56 AM: